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And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. (ASV)

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Introduction

JW:

Work In Progress

"The Simontic Problem"

Claimed error = Matthew 16:18, claiming that Peter is The Authorized successor to Jesus, is Contradicted by "Mark" which has a primary objective of Discrediting Peter as a witness to Jesus.

The Objective of this Argument will be to Inventory all Negative descriptions of Peter by "Mark". Identification of Negative descriptions will be expanded to consider "Mark's" Literary technique of How these descriptions are presented.

In accordance with Due Diligence standards established by Jeffrey Gibson, I will now reveal my possible Bias. My Framework of the development of Christianity up to "Mark" is as follows:

1) Historical Jesus was Teacher & Faith Healer.

2) Peter was Jesus' disciple and James was Jesus' brother.

3) Peter and James taught 1) and wrote Q.

4) Paul ignored 3) and emphasized Jesus' Death.

5) "Mark" expanded 4) to explain that 3) represented a misunderstanding of Jesus and instead emphasized Jesus' Passion and Death.

This bias though is relatively insignificant compared to the bias of a Christian Bible scholar who assumes that God sacrificed himself to himself, thereby conquering death by dying, souly in order to put an end to his own Eternal Law.

Inventory Of "Mark's" Negative Casting Of Peter:

1) Sickness in Simon's house.

Mark 1:

29 And straightway, when they were come out of the synagogue, they came into the house of Simon and Andrew, with James and John.
30 Now Simon`s wife`s mother lay sick of a fever; and straightway they tell him of her:
31 and he came and took her by the hand, and raised her up; and the fever left her, and she ministered unto them.

2) Jesus gives Simon an extra name, "Peter".

Mark 3:16 and Simon he surnamed Peter;

3) The Parable of the Sower specifically refers to Peter as in the category of Disciple Failure.

Mark 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; and when they have heard, straightway cometh Satan, and taketh away the word which hath been sown in them.

4) The name "Simon" is assigned to a brother of Jesus who is presented unfavorably.

Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James, and Joses, and Judas, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended in him.

5) Peter is presented as the Opposition to the Passion.

Mark 8:32 And he spake the saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.

6) A Simon is presented as a Leper.

Mark 14:

1 Now after two days was [the feast of] the passover and the unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him with subtlety, and kill him:
2 for they said, Not during the feast, lest haply there shall be a tumult of the people.
3 And while he was in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster cruse of ointment of pure nard very costly; [and] she brake the cruse, and poured it over his head.
4 But there were some that had indignation among themselves, [saying], To what purpose hath this waste of the ointment been made?
5 For this ointment might have been sold for above three hundred shillings, and given to the poor. And they murmured against her.
6 But Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me.
7 For ye have the poor always with you, and whensoever ye will ye can do them good: but me ye have not always.
8 She hath done what she could; she hath anointed my body beforehand for the burying.
9 And verily I say unto you, Wheresoever the gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, that also which this woman hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

7) Jesus predicts that Peter will Deny him Three times.

Mark 14:30 And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, that thou to-day, [even] this night, before the cock crow twice, shalt deny me thrice.

8) Jesus demotes Peter by using his pre-Disciple name, "Simon" to address him.

Mark 14:37 And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest thou not watch one hour?

9) Peter Fails to Watch out for Jesus.

Mark 14:

34 And he saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful even unto death: abide ye here, and watch.
35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass away from him.
36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; remove this cup from me: howbeit not what I will, but what thou wilt.
37 And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest thou not watch one hour?
38 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
39 And again he went away, and prayed, saying the same words.
40 And again he came, and found them sleeping, for their eyes were very heavy; and they knew not what to answer him.
41 And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough; the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.
42 Arise, let us be going: behold, he that betrayeth me is at hand.

10) Peter Denies Jesus Three times.

Mark 14:

53And they led Jesus away to the high priest: and there come together with him all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes.
54 And Peter had followed him afar off, even within, into the court of the high priest; and he was sitting with the officers, and warming himself in the light [of the fire].
55 Now the chief priests and the whole council sought witness against Jesus to put him to death; and found it not.
56 For many bare false witness against him, and their witness agreed not together.
57 And there stood up certain, and bare false witness against him, saying,
58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and in three days I will build another made without hands.
59 And not even so did their witness agree together.
60 And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee?
61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and saith unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.
63 And the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What further need have we of witnesses?
64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be worthy of death.
65 And some began to spit on him, and to cover his face, and to buffet him, and to say unto him, Prophesy: and the officers received him with blows of their hands.
66 And as Peter was beneath in the court, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest;
67 and seeing Peter warming himself, she looked upon him, and saith, Thou also wast with the Nazarene, [even] Jesus.
68 But he denied, saying, I neither know, nor understand what thou sayest: and he went out into the porch; and the cock crew.
69 And the maid saw him, and began again to say to them that stood by, This is [one] of them.
70 But he again denied it. And after a little while again they that stood by said to Peter, of a truth thou art [one] of them; for thou art a Galilaean.
71 But he began to curse, and to swear, I know not this man of whom ye speak.
72 And straightway the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word, how that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

11) Peter mourns the loss of his life for Denying Jesus.

Mark 14:72 And straightway the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word, how that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

12) Peter Simon is figuratively replaced as Leader of Jesus' followers.

Mark 15:21 And they compel one passing by, Simon of Cyrene, coming from the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to go [with them], that he might bear his cross.

And Categorization:

Major Negative Casting:

1) Mark 4:15 The Parable of the Sower specifically refers to Peter as in the category of Disciple Failure.

2) Mark 8:32 Peter is presented as the Opposition to the Passion.

3) Mark 14:30 Jesus predicts that Peter will Deny him Three times.

4) Mark 14:53-72 Peter Denies Jesus Three times.

Minor Negative Casting:

1) Mark 1:29-31 Sickness in Simon's house.

2) Mark 3:16 Jesus gives Simon an extra name, "Peter".

3) Mark 6:3The name "Simon" is assigned to a brother of Jesus who is presented unfavorably.

4) [[Mark_14|Mark 14:1-9] A Simon is presented as a Leper.

5) Mark 14:37 Jesus demotes Peter by using his pre-Disciple name, "Simon" to address him.

6) [[Mark_14|Mark 14:34-42] Peter Fails to Watch out for Jesus.

7) Mark 14:72 Peter mourns the loss of his life for Denying Jesus.

8) Mark 15:21 Peter Simon is figuratively replaced as Leader of Jesus' followers.

Formulas For Disciple Failure

After an Inventory or "Mark's" Negative Casting of Peter the next stage of The Simontic Problem is to Inventory the Formulas "Mark's" Jesus' presents to Identify Disciple Failure and determine if and How Peter meets the definitions of Failure:

Mark 4:

10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parables.

11 And he said unto them, Unto you is given the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all things are done in parables:

12 that seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest haply they should turn again, and it should be forgiven them.

13 And he saith unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how shall ye know all the parables?

14 The sower soweth the word.

15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; and when they have heard, straightway cometh Satan, and taketh away the word which hath been sown in them.

16 And these in like manner are they that are sown upon the rocky [places], who, when they have heard the word, straightway receive it with joy;

17 and they have no root in themselves, but endure for a while; then, when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, straightway they stumble."

Here Jesus clearly explains categories of Disciple Failure to his Disciples and the specific category above is a Disciple who immediately follows Jesus just because he was asked but than falls away with the first persecution. "Stumble" above is a mistranslation as the word has a religious context and the range includes deserting/giving up the faith which the Context in "Mark" makes clear is the meaning (Ben). I've already made clear in Stage 1 of The Simontic Problem that "Mark" clearly shows Peter by Narrative as meeting this definition of Disciple failure.

The Inventory to date of "Mark's" Jesus' Formulas to Identify Disciple Failure and How Peter meets the definitions of Failure:

1) 4:10-17 The Preter Mature Evacuation Problem. Disciples who quickly follow Jesus and just as quickly abandon Jesus.

--JoeWallack 21:40, 26 Oct 2007 (CDT)


For all the fellow Truth-speakers here, the Kuriobunga from downunda, Neal Godfree, has done it again with his latest blog:

Tracing the evolution of the Twelve Apostles from monkey rejects to angelic pillars.

"The twelve failures — Mark’s gospel This appears to be our earliest narrative involving the twelve disciples or twelve apostles and it presents the Twelve as disastrous failures. They are a negative lesson to readers: Don’t be like them! Peter’s name, meaning rocky, is more obviously associated with the rocky soil in the parable of the sower, than with any foundational stone (Talbert). Jesus called him Satan and in almost the same breath warned anyone who was too ashamed to admit to knowing Jesus would be a reject in the kingdom (Mark 8:33-38). This assigns Peter with his threefold denial to the same league as Judas. The disciples fled in fear from Jesus at his arrest and the women fled fearfully from Jesus’ tomb soon afterwards. The only resurrection appearance known to Mark will be at the second coming, although Jesus can be found before then in metaphorical Galilee."

Excursus, the Evolution of the Jesuspecies:

Mark:

Formula for Disciple Failure:

Mark 8:

Fulfillment of Formula:


[COLOR="Blue"]JW[/COLOR]: Note that "Mark's" Peter swears on oath that he does not know Jesus.

[B]Matthew:[/B]

Formula for Disciple Failure:

[url]http://www.errancywiki.com/index.php/Matthew_16[/url]


[COLOR="Blue"]JW[/COLOR]: Note that #2 has exorcised the following from "Mark's" Jesus:

"For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of man also shall be ashamed of him, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels."

"Matthew" elected to retain the Peter Denial story so he [I]removed[/I] the portion of the Formula for Disciple Failure related to a [B]Specific Act[/B], Denying Jesus. He than Rehabilitates his Peter in Toto at the end. Thus "Matthew's" Peter does not meet the Formula for Disciple Failure nearly as clearly as "Mark's" Peter.

[B]Luke[/B]:

"Luke" retains "Mark's" Jesus' Formula and Peter's Denial is:

[url]http://www.errancywiki.com/index.php/Luke_22[/url]


[COLOR="Blue"]JW[/COLOR]: Note that "Luke's" Peter is less emphatic about Denial, it's just an opinion and not a statement. "Luke's" Peter can withstand the bad press here because the related Rehabilitation will be exponentially better than "Matthew's" Peter.

[B]John:[/B]

Note that "Johnny" come Lately has completely exorcised "Mark's" Jesus' related Formula here for Disciple Failure. "Mark" in general emphasized Defining Disciple [SIZE="3"][B]Failure[/B][/SIZE] and by the time we get to "John" the emphasis is flipped to defining Disciple success. Peter's Act of Denial is also Tonned down in "John":

[url]http://www.errancywiki.com/index.php/John_18[/url]

[quote] 18:15 And Simon Peter followed Jesus, and [so did] another disciple. Now that disciple was known unto the high priest, and entered in with Jesus into the court of the high priest;

18:16 but Peter was standing at the door without. So the other disciple, who was known unto the high priest, went out and spake unto her that kept the door, and brought in Peter.

18:17 The maid therefore that kept the door saith unto Peter, Art thou also [one] of this man`s disciples? He saith, I am not.

18:18 Now the servants and the officers were standing [there], having made a fire of coals; for it was cold; and they were warming themselves: and Peter also was with them, standing and warming himself.

18:19 The high priest therefore asked Jesus of his disciples, and of his teaching.

18:20 Jesus answered him, I have spoken openly to the world; I ever taught in synagogues, and in the temple, where all the Jews come together; and in secret spake I nothing.

18:21 Why askest thou me? Ask them that have heard [me], what I spake unto them: behold, these know the things which I said.

18:22 And when he had said this, one of the officers standing by struck Jesus with his hand, saying, Answerest thou the high priest so?

18:23 Jesus answered him, If I have spoken evil, bear witness of the evil: but if well, why smitest thou me?

18:24 Annas therefore sent him bound unto Caiaphas the high priest.

18:25 Now Simon Peter was standing and warming himself. They said therefore unto him, Art thou also [one] of his disciples? He denied, and said, I am not.

18:26 One of the servants of the high priest, being a kinsman of him whose ear Peter cut off, saith, Did not I see thee in the garden with him?

18:27 Peter therefore denied again: and straightway the cock crew. [/quote]

[COLOR="Blue"]JW[/COLOR]: Note here that Peter now has company and only Denies that he is a Disciple of Jesus rather than even knowing Jesus. Also, the dramatic/climactic Confessional Cry of Jesus Failure has been circumcised. Again, "John's" Theology is a Positive one, Defining Disciple success, which as always, is a Reaction to "Mark" and his Negative Theology of Defining Disciple Failure:

[url=http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=527239&id=527447&s=143441] Always Look On The Bright Side Of Eternal Life[/url]

Con

Peter is an excellent example of the disciple who follows Jesus on his own terms and not on Jesus' terms. Peter can be contrasted with Judas who also followed Jesus in anticipation that Jesus would carry out his agenda. The distinction is the change in both men as a consequence of the arrest of Jesus and His impending crucifixion. Judas sees his cause to be lost and takes his own life. Peter gives up his agenda and submits to Jesus. Afterwards, Peter becomes a leader in proclaiming the Christ. That Peter was still imperfect and had things to learn is shown in Paul's confrontation with Peter in Galatians 2.

Neutral

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The reader does not know where PRO is going with his argument. PRO needs to expand the introduction to summarize the argument that is being made and describe the effect of the Simontic Problem on a person's acceptance/rejection of the Bible.

That Peter (and the apostles) were illiterate men and basically losers is not denied. That they were changed as a consequence of the death of Jesus and the event at Pentecost where they were empowered by the Holy Spirit seems clear as the reader moves from the gospel accounts to Acts and discovers that which the apostles did after Pentecost. PRO needs to describe what his argument has to do with all of this and the point he seeks to make.

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