And they reasoned one with another, saying, We have no bread. (ASV)
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Paul as source for "Mark"
- 16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a communion of the body of Christ?
- 17 seeing that we, who are many, are one bread, one body: for we are all partake of the one bread.
- 13 And he left them, and again entering into [the boat] departed to the other side.
- 14 And they forgot to take bread; and they had not in the boat with them more than one loaf.
- 15 And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.
- 16 And they reasoned one with another, saying, We have no bread.
- 17 And Jesus perceiving it saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? do ye not yet perceive, neither understand? have ye your heart hardened?
- 18 Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?
- 19 When I brake the five loaves among the five thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve.
- 20 And when the seven among the four thousand, how many basketfuls of broken pieces took ye up? And they say unto him, Seven.
- 21 And he said unto them, Do ye not yet understand?
Paul makes a figurative point that the Christians partake of one bread, Jesus. Paul emphasizes "one" the formulaic 3 times. Paul's historical comparison is Moses and the Jews in the wilderness.
"Mark's" setting is also a feeding in the wilderness. It's the narrator who explains (at the subtext level) that the Disciples have one loaf with them. The Disciples declare at the Text level that they have no bread. Jesus corrects their literal understanding with a figurative explanation.
It sure looks like "Mark's" source here is Paul. If his Jesus really wanted his Disciples to understand here he should instead have just told them to read 1 Corinthians 10.
--JoeWallack 10:22, 2 June 2009 (EDT)