Mark 1:23

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And straightway there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out, (ASV)

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Mark 1:

23 And straightway there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out,
24 saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus thou Nazarene? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
25 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.
26 And the unclean spirit, tearing him and crying with a loud voice, came out of him.
27 And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What is this? a new teaching! with authority he commandeth even the unclean spirits, and they obey him.

JW:

The key points:

1) "Mark's" Jesus' first sign was casting out an evil spirit.

2) "Mark's" Jesus received the spirit of God.

3) "Mark's" Jesus' Mission is to give the holy spirit.

4) "Mark's" Jesus goes through Galilee casting out demons.

5) "Mark's" Jesus instructs his disciples to cast out demons.

6) "Mark's" Jesus loses it (his spirit) on the stake.

In "Mark's" theological universe the diechotomy is good vs. evil spirit. The good spirit is God's and the bad spirit is Satan's.

"John's" reaction:

John 2:

1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
2 and Jesus also was bidden, and his disciples, to the marriage.
3 And when the wine failed, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
4 And Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.
6 Now there were six waterpots of stone set there after the Jews` manner of purifying, containing two or three firkins apiece.
7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the ruler of the feast. And they bare it.
9 And when the ruler of the feast tasted the water now become wine, and knew not whence it was (but the servants that had drawn the water knew), the ruler of the feast calleth the bridegroom,
10 and saith unto him, Every man setteth on first the good wine; and when [men] have drunk freely, [then] that which is worse: thou hast kept the good wine until now.
11 This beginning of his signs did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

JW:

1) "John's" Jesus' first sign was turning water into wine.

2) "John's" Jesus never received the spirit of God.

3) "John" has exorcised Jesus giving the holy spirit.

4) "John's" Jesus never casts out a demon. Look it up.

5) "John's" Jesus never instructs his disciples to cast out demons.

6) "John's" Jesus does not lose it (his spirit) on the stake. He does give it up though.

In "John's" theological universe the diechotomy is flesh vs. spirit. Flesh is bad and spirit is always good.

"John" is not a compliment to "Mark" told from a different perspective. It is a flat out denial and rejection of Markan theology.


--JoeWallack 10:30, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

"He who denies that "John's" Jesus is denying "Mark's" Jesus is the liar." - JW

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