Mark 1:11
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And a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased. (ASV)
Pro
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What did the voice at Jesus' baptism say?
JW:
Bart Ehrman points out in Jesus, Interrupted that the voice at Jesus' baptism says different things in different Gospels:
- And a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased.
Verses:
- and lo, a voice out of the heavens, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Verses:
- and the Holy Spirit descended in a bodily form, as a dove, upon him, and a voice came out of heaven, You are my son, today I have begotten you. (Ehrman selection of text and translation)
Patristic Reaction
Ehrman points out that in The Gospel of the Ebionites God/Heaven is quoted as saying all 3 things above to try and avoid the contradictions:
"After the people were baptized, Jesus also came and was baptized by John; and as he came up from the water, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Holy Ghost in the likeness of a dove that descended and entered into him: and a voice from heaven saying: Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased: and again: This day have I begotten thee. And straightway there shone about the place a great light. Which when John saw (it saith) he saith unto him: Who art thou, Lord? and again there was a voice from heaven saying unto him: This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. And then (it saith) John fell down before him and said: I beseech thee, Lord, baptize thou me. But he prevented him saying: Suffer it (or let it go): for thus it behoveth that all things should be fulfilled."
--JoeWallack 10:04, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
Con
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Neutral
Whosonfirst?
Costello: Allrite, who came first?
Abbey: The Father?
Costello: Right. Who came second?
Abbey: The Son?
Costello: Wrong. The Son came first.
Abbey: So the Father & Son both came first?
Costello: Correct. Who came third?
Abbey: The Spirit?
Costello: Wrong. The Spirit came first.
Abbey: So the Father & Son & Spirit all came first?
Costello: That's correct. You've got the Spirit!
Abbey: I've got the Spirit and I don't even know what I'm saying.
