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(Moved from Main_Page --JustinEiler 12:35, 4 Sep 2005 (CDT))

Okay, I give up. How do you get proper Greek fonts to work here?


Hi, Joe.
The big problem with Greek (or any non-Roman) letters is that it actually depends on the browser, not the server software. The best way is probably to use Unicode for your Greek letters.
Try this link ([ Lord's Prayer in Greek), and tell me if you see the letters in Greek, or if they come up as question marks.

(Note: Once we get this problem resolved, I'll move it to the "Help" area, as this is likely to be a recurring question.)

--JustinEiler 09:37, 2 Sep 2005 (CDT)

Hi Justin. Here's what I get:

"The Lord's Prayer in Greek (Matt. 6:9-13) ????? ???? ? ?? ???? ???????? ????????? ?? ????? ???·

?????? ? ???????? ???· ???????? ?? ?????? ???, ?? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ???·

??? ????? ???? ??? ????????? ??? ???? ???????·

??? ???? ???? ?? ????????? ????, ?? ??? ????? ??????? ???? ?????????? ????·

??? ?? ?????????? ???? ??? ?????????, ???? ????? ???? ??? ??? ???????.

??? ??? ????? ? ???????? ??? ? ??????? ??? ? ???? ??? ???? ??????·


Close. I assume the letters that are not recognized come out as the squares, "?". If it is a Browser issue do you know exactly how to fix it? I tell you the truth, I haven't made any attempt to look at my Browser setting but as you said, others will have the same problem.


Well, that's the problem: my browser's set correctly, so even in your pasted copy I see the text without boxes.
But yes, it's probably a settings issue on your end. A couple of questions:
  • What browser software are you using?
  • What operating system are you using? Some operating systems can properly handle Unicode, some can't, but the worst offenders are Windows 95 and Windows 98.
With that information, we should (hopefully) get you set up quickly--unless you're using one of the operating systems that can't use Unicode.

Now we are getting somewhere. I use AOL 9 which I think has Internet Explorer 6 or whatever is the current version. I also have Windows XP. When I write mail on AOL the fonts are all perfect so it's not a general AOL problem. The problem seems to be the combination of AOL and a site like Wiki. I looked at my Brower settings on AOL and didn't see any "Unicode" option. Can you check with Simon? He seems to be something of a genius in this area.


"The problem seems to be the combination of AOL and a site like Wiki."
Not necessarily: I'm getting the same problem with Internet Explorer 6 without AOL. Normally I use Firefox, and the fonts all show properly.
There's a page for setting up your fonts in Internet Explorer to handle other languages here: [1]
However, I'll warn you now: I've never been able to get Internet Explorer to properly display Unicode fonts--I'm honestly not sure if it's a problem with IE, or if I don't have it set up right. But the above web-page is the best place to start.
Joseph, I wish I had better news, but if it is a problem with IE, you may need to switch to Firefox until IE gets better support.
--JustinEiler 11:13, 2 Sep 2005 (CDT)

(Moved from Help:Greek_text: --JustinEiler 23:37, 3 Sep 2005 (CDT))

Hey Brother Justin, I tried Firefox and it correctly displayed all Greek fonts. Thanks. Can you make a link to Mozilla Firefox? I believe it is free to download. I checked with AOL support and not surprisingly, since they use IE, they weren't about to suggest Firefox or concede that it was a problem on AOL. They instructed me to download Windows updates for IE. I already had the most recent version. AOL's priority is email so Greek fonts work fine there. Cruising web sites is not an AOL priority which is probably why there's a problem. If enough people complain they might fix it. I know sometimes you need the latest Java update for proper display but I already have that too. As near as I can tell then it's an AOL problem.


Will do.
--JustinEiler 23:37, 3 Sep 2005 (CDT)